This is my first post, I'm exsited to taking part of this forum. [I want to state that I am no nazi, and that I fully walk the same line as feldgrau as of political questions.]
My first ever post will be about Hermann Fegelein, the playboy of The Third Reich. He got my atention as I saw the Untergang [Downfall] Movie, and since then I have tried to find information about him. But there has been litle to find for my taste. I want everything people know! Childhood, Waffen SS history, relationship with generals and his love for horses, moral questions, closest family tree... in other words.. EVERYTHING you guys know! If anyone of you know that he once killed an ant with his boot, I want to know about it.
I'm also collecting a repro militaria uniform for my first time, and this is gonna be Hermann Fegeleins Unirform. It's gonna be a Brigadefuhrer Uniform with the Florian Geyer cuff title, and iron crosses and other badges. Now I would like to know what he would likely were on his uniform in his last days and also what he has earned during his years in military service.
SS-Brigadefûhrer Hermann Fegelein
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The most detailed bio of Flegelein you will find in Vol.1 of
Die Generale der Waffen-SS und der Polizei by Wegmann/Schulz/Zinke , published by Biblio-Verlag .
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Die Generale der Waffen-SS und der Polizei by Wegmann/Schulz/Zinke , published by Biblio-Verlag .
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BIG BIG BIG Thanks!!! I got alot to read now, but please you guys, don't stop. I wan't all you got.Jan-Hendrik wrote:The most detailed bio of Flegelein you will find in Vol.1 of
Die Generale der Waffen-SS und der Polizei by Wegmann/Schulz/Zinke , published by Biblio-Verlag .
http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... ermann.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Per ... eleinH.htm
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Where do I find detail'd info about what kind of awards and badges he got? And what would he probably be wearing in his last days?
In Der Untergang he is wearing a green uniform with black collar [Is this the M36 uniform??] and the insignia of an Brigadefuhrer [after 1942]. He also wears his Florian Geyer Cuff-title and the german SS Arm-eagle [Ofcaurse]. Also he wears the Knight Cross but only with the oakleaves, not with the swords. Anyone can explain this? Then he has the Iron Cross 1st class, the 2nd class ribbon, a wound badge '39, an Infantry Assault Badge and a close combat clasp in gold. Can anyone confirm or correct this for me?
In Der Untergang he is wearing a green uniform with black collar [Is this the M36 uniform??] and the insignia of an Brigadefuhrer [after 1942]. He also wears his Florian Geyer Cuff-title and the german SS Arm-eagle [Ofcaurse]. Also he wears the Knight Cross but only with the oakleaves, not with the swords. Anyone can explain this? Then he has the Iron Cross 1st class, the 2nd class ribbon, a wound badge '39, an Infantry Assault Badge and a close combat clasp in gold. Can anyone confirm or correct this for me?
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Gruppenführer Fegelein had the CCC in silver, the RK with oakleaves and swords, DKiG, EK I and II, KVK II, Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen silver, Allgemeine-Sturmabzeichen silver;wound badge 39 in silver, ostmedaille + some minor decorations.
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I did'nt understand all of them... DKiG and KVK??dnl-panzerschreck wrote:Gruppenführer Fegelein had the CCC in silver, the RK with oakleaves and swords, DKiG, EK I and II, KVK II, Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen silver, Allgemeine-Sturmabzeichen silver;wound badge 39 in silver, ostmedaille + some minor decorations.
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Hi,
So far, here is what I have.
Ritterkreuz - 2nd March 1942
Eichenlaub (Oak Leaves) - 21st December 1942
Schwerter (Swords) - 30th July 1944
(From L-D-W)
Nahkampfspange in Silber (Close Combat Clip in Silver) - December 5th, 1943 (Never awarded Gold - from WAF)
Also, WAF states that he has a '20. Juli 1944' silver wound badge, of which only 24 were awarded - to people injured in the attempt on Hitlers life on the above date. Whether he had a regular verwundetenabzeichen (wound badge), I dont know.
Cheers,
So far, here is what I have.
Ritterkreuz - 2nd March 1942
Eichenlaub (Oak Leaves) - 21st December 1942
Schwerter (Swords) - 30th July 1944
(From L-D-W)
Nahkampfspange in Silber (Close Combat Clip in Silver) - December 5th, 1943 (Never awarded Gold - from WAF)
Also, WAF states that he has a '20. Juli 1944' silver wound badge, of which only 24 were awarded - to people injured in the attempt on Hitlers life on the above date. Whether he had a regular verwundetenabzeichen (wound badge), I dont know.
Cheers,
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Hey great! Thanks to all of you guys helping me! Now I have thought about using the Black SS Uniform instead of the Field-grey, is this realistic? I don't know to much about what types of uniforms the different units and commanders used.Jock wrote:Hi Grim,
DKiG = Deutsches Kreuz in Geld (German Cross in Gold), and KVK II = Kriegsverdienst Kreuz Klasse II (War Merit Cross Second Class).
If I come up with anything else, I'll be sure to pass it along.
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I know there is'nt to many known pictures of Hermann Fegelein, but I found one in an old book I hav'nt seen before.
As stated in the book the people in the picture is:
1. Arthur Axmann, leader of the Hitlerjugend.
2. Hermann Fegelein
3. Julius Schaub, Hitlers adjutant
4. Adolf Hitler
5. General Burgdorf
6. Burgdorfs adjutant, Hans Linge
As far as I know, this is the last known picture taken of Fegelein. This is just 40 days before his death[?] 29th of April.
As stated in the book the people in the picture is:
1. Arthur Axmann, leader of the Hitlerjugend.
2. Hermann Fegelein
3. Julius Schaub, Hitlers adjutant
4. Adolf Hitler
5. General Burgdorf
6. Burgdorfs adjutant, Hans Linge
As far as I know, this is the last known picture taken of Fegelein. This is just 40 days before his death[?] 29th of April.
Re: SS-Brigadefûhrer Hermann Fegelein
Hello to all ; more.........................................
SS-Kavallerie-Brigade 1941.
Source: SS KAVALLERIE IM OSTEN. Verlag Westermann - Braunschweig.
Cheers. Raúl M .
SS-Kavallerie-Brigade 1941.
Source: SS KAVALLERIE IM OSTEN. Verlag Westermann - Braunschweig.
Cheers. Raúl M .
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