T-52???

Ethelian · Post by **Ethelian** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 1:09 pm

In Rupert Butlers book on the 5th SS he mentions them going up against some Russian T-52's.Can anyone enlighten me to what they where?I cannot place them.What armament,when produced that sort of thing.

Or was it a typo?

Thanks

Ethelian

Paul Hanson · Post by **Paul Hanson** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 1:41 pm

I feel it's an error. There was no such tank used by the Soviets in WWII, or any other time AFAIK.
PH

charlie don't surf · Post by **charlie don't surf** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 1:43 pm

Never heard of it either. Could he mean SU-152?

regards

Ethelian · Post by **Ethelian** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 10:53 am

Thanks for that guys:)

I didn't think i has missed one and the time frame for it being an SU152 is wrong.He was talking about late '41 early 42 and the SU152 was not in service then.

The book is very basic and quite confusing in places so i am not surprised he has made a mistake.Could be he meant the T-28.He did say it was a heavy tank,or it could have been a KV-1.Just one of those mysteries we will never solve:)

andrus · Post by **andrus** » Tue Oct 15, 2002 1:08 am

"t-52 late 41 early 42"

well, at this time germans were referring soviet tanks according to weight. 52 ton tank usually means KV-2, but sometimes more common KV-1 was called this way also.

The Chief · Post by **The Chief** » Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:40 am

Wern't Romanian PZ38-t's called the T52?

Abwehr · Post by **Abwehr** » Tue Oct 15, 2002 3:36 pm

A quick google search reveals that the Type 52 is in fact a Chineses tank, but it was a post war design (and is still in use by the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan!). Most likely it is a clone of an equivelent Soviet tank, but I haven't yet found which. There was, however, a Soviet T-50 medium tank during the early war.

http://www.battlefield.ru/t50.html

Paul Hanson · Post by **Paul Hanson** » Tue Oct 15, 2002 4:04 pm

I think Andrus hit it dead on. I didn't think about this but he is correct. The Germans referred to the KV-1 as a "52 ton tank" in most battle reports until early 1942 when they began to refer to it as the K.W.-1 tank.

I feel this is the answer: instead of T52 think 52t(on) and flip the designation. Someone either wrote it incorrectly or remembered it incorrectly.

PH

Ethelian · Post by **Ethelian** » Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:42 am

I don't think it was a spelling mistake i think from reading the book that it is sloppy research. I would not recommend them to anyone unless they where only looking for superficial info

Feldgrau.net

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