Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
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Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; here goes a map showing the areas to be occupied by the German Army since October 01 onwards.......AFAIK the Zone III was occupied mainly by the XVI AK (Mot) under General Guderian and its 1 Pz, 13 ID (Mot) and 20 ID (Mot). In Zone I acted the 7 ID and within Zone III mainly the 3 Pz......but within Zone II? Anyone has a better picture of that deployment? TIA. Cheers. Raúl M .
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; a little more.......I've found this in Walter Görlitz's work:
On August 18, 1938 General Beck resigned, which was accepted three days later.
On 1 September 1938 as General Halder took over as CoS of the Army - Heer. The Army General Staff received the directive to prepare a contingency plan against Czechoslovakia which committed four armies, comprising 10 Army Corps as follows below:
2nd Army (v. Rundstedt) in Silesia.
10th Army (v. Reichenau) with the bulk of the motorized and armored formations in the Pilsen area.
12th Army (v. Leeb) in Bavaria. (it had been retired in February 1938 and was reinstated in the service to execute the invasion).
14th Army (see list) Austria.
14 divisions of militia (Landwehr) should occupy the western wall (Gen. Adam).
In parallel with these plans, the resistance also prepared the coup in which were involved Halder, Oster (2 º of Canaris), Gordeler, Count Helldorf (Chief of Police of Berlin), v. Witzleben (Commander Military Region III - Berlin), Brockdorff-Ahlefeldt (Commander 23 º DI - Potsdam) and Hoepner (Commander 1st Light Div - Wuppertal, here was a such v. Stauffenberg). The plan was as follows: Witzleben troops were to occupy the district of ministries and arrest Hitler and delivered him to a people's court, while the 1st Light Div on their way to the Czech border was to close the roads to and from Berlin to prevent the intervention of SS troops mobilized on the border. But Western powers saved Hitler with the Munich Pact and the coup was no longer viable (could not arrest anyone had achieved such a victory without bloodshed) hence the famous phrase of Halder who said perplexed "What remains for us to do? all goes well. "
Source: "The German General Staff." Walter Görlitz. Volume II.
http://www.bruntal.net/2007072602-k-ota ... -1938-1939
Chers. Raúl M .
On August 18, 1938 General Beck resigned, which was accepted three days later.
On 1 September 1938 as General Halder took over as CoS of the Army - Heer. The Army General Staff received the directive to prepare a contingency plan against Czechoslovakia which committed four armies, comprising 10 Army Corps as follows below:
2nd Army (v. Rundstedt) in Silesia.
10th Army (v. Reichenau) with the bulk of the motorized and armored formations in the Pilsen area.
12th Army (v. Leeb) in Bavaria. (it had been retired in February 1938 and was reinstated in the service to execute the invasion).
14th Army (see list) Austria.
14 divisions of militia (Landwehr) should occupy the western wall (Gen. Adam).
In parallel with these plans, the resistance also prepared the coup in which were involved Halder, Oster (2 º of Canaris), Gordeler, Count Helldorf (Chief of Police of Berlin), v. Witzleben (Commander Military Region III - Berlin), Brockdorff-Ahlefeldt (Commander 23 º DI - Potsdam) and Hoepner (Commander 1st Light Div - Wuppertal, here was a such v. Stauffenberg). The plan was as follows: Witzleben troops were to occupy the district of ministries and arrest Hitler and delivered him to a people's court, while the 1st Light Div on their way to the Czech border was to close the roads to and from Berlin to prevent the intervention of SS troops mobilized on the border. But Western powers saved Hitler with the Munich Pact and the coup was no longer viable (could not arrest anyone had achieved such a victory without bloodshed) hence the famous phrase of Halder who said perplexed "What remains for us to do? all goes well. "
Source: "The German General Staff." Walter Görlitz. Volume II.
http://www.bruntal.net/2007072602-k-ota ... -1938-1939
Chers. Raúl M .
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; something more..............
Leitmeritz October 1938.
See below German troops in parade formation on the market place of Leitmeritz on Oct 12 1938. Which German units occupied Leitmeritz (the town was located within Zone II)? It seems one motorized panzerabwehr Kp and one horse-drawn antiaircraft Kp...
Source: Bundesarchiv.
Cheers. Raúl M .
Leitmeritz October 1938.
See below German troops in parade formation on the market place of Leitmeritz on Oct 12 1938. Which German units occupied Leitmeritz (the town was located within Zone II)? It seems one motorized panzerabwehr Kp and one horse-drawn antiaircraft Kp...
Source: Bundesarchiv.
Cheers. Raúl M .
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; something more..............
Reichenberg - October 1938.
Visit of Genaraloberst von Brauchitsch. 12.10.1938 Reichenberg. Sudetenland...
Source: Bundesarchiv.
Cheers. Raúl M .
Reichenberg - October 1938.
Visit of Genaraloberst von Brauchitsch. 12.10.1938 Reichenberg. Sudetenland...
Source: Bundesarchiv.
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- The first vehicle wears the emblem of Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH), the second the distinctive of Heeresgruppenkommando ............
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- The first vehicle wears the emblem of Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH), the second the distinctive of Heeresgruppenkommando ............
Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; at last the German deployment planned for "Case Green" (Fall Grün). I think this was before the Munich Agreement, I do not know whether it was accomplished in this way during the occupation of the Sudetenland or it was modified to fulfill this new task...............
German deployment. Fall Grün.
pd = Infantry Division, hd = Mountain Division, od = Armored Division; leh.d = light division, mod = motorized division.
Source: http://galerie.valka.cz/showphoto.php/photo/132941
We also can see the deployment of Polish and Hungarian units. Cheers. Raúl M .
German deployment. Fall Grün.
pd = Infantry Division, hd = Mountain Division, od = Armored Division; leh.d = light division, mod = motorized division.
Source: http://galerie.valka.cz/showphoto.php/photo/132941
We also can see the deployment of Polish and Hungarian units. Cheers. Raúl M .
Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; I've found something more....................
The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
During the crisis over the Sudeten German minority, who after the First World War, lived under the sovereignty of Czechoslovakia, the 3 Pz was assembled in Training Ground of Königsbrück from 14 to 25 September 1938 and there the division carried out several field exercises.
Sources: Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
Cheers. Raúl M .
The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
During the crisis over the Sudeten German minority, who after the First World War, lived under the sovereignty of Czechoslovakia, the 3 Pz was assembled in Training Ground of Königsbrück from 14 to 25 September 1938 and there the division carried out several field exercises.
Sources: Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Exercise of wading a stream ......................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
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The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
On September 25, 1938 the units of the division, including the Pi Btl 39, were transported to Ohlau and around Breslau in Silesia with a view to intervention in the occupation of the Sudeten German territory after the Munich agreement. The vehicle fleet of the 1. / Pi Btl 39 was located in the town hall of Ohlau.
On October 8, 1938 promptly at 12:00 hours the 3 Pz crossed the international border in the area Hultschin - Troppau. The 1. Squad of the 1./ Pi Btl 39 was the spearhead of the advance guard with the task of clearing blockages on the road and searching the bridges in order to remove any explosive charges.
Sources: Private Sales List-Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Historical media 2007 LLC. Sábado, 28 de Febrero de 2009, 10:12:24
Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
Cheers. Raúl M .
The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
On September 25, 1938 the units of the division, including the Pi Btl 39, were transported to Ohlau and around Breslau in Silesia with a view to intervention in the occupation of the Sudeten German territory after the Munich agreement. The vehicle fleet of the 1. / Pi Btl 39 was located in the town hall of Ohlau.
On October 8, 1938 promptly at 12:00 hours the 3 Pz crossed the international border in the area Hultschin - Troppau. The 1. Squad of the 1./ Pi Btl 39 was the spearhead of the advance guard with the task of clearing blockages on the road and searching the bridges in order to remove any explosive charges.
Sources: Private Sales List-Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Historical media 2007 LLC. Sábado, 28 de Febrero de 2009, 10:12:24
Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Last meal at Cosel before crossing the Czech border - October 8, 1938.
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- Border barrier in the region of Troppau ...................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; something more....................
The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
In this operation the PR 6 was led by Maj. Rothenburg because Oberst Crüwell had taking over the command of the 3 Pz Brigade replacing its commander who was sick. At 13:30 hours the vanguard of the division reached Stiebnig and was greeted jubilantly by the population of ethnic Germans.
Sources: Private Sales List-Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Historical media 2007 LLC. Sábado, 28 de Febrero de 2009, 10:12:24
Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
Cheers. Raúl M .
The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
In this operation the PR 6 was led by Maj. Rothenburg because Oberst Crüwell had taking over the command of the 3 Pz Brigade replacing its commander who was sick. At 13:30 hours the vanguard of the division reached Stiebnig and was greeted jubilantly by the population of ethnic Germans.
Sources: Private Sales List-Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Historical media 2007 LLC. Sábado, 28 de Febrero de 2009, 10:12:24
Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Czech fortified position on the border section of Troppau ................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
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The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
Next day the advance continued from the line Grulich - Mährisch Schönberg - Braunseifen - South of Troppau.
In the pictures below troops belonging to the AA 3 in Troppau.
Sources: Private Sales List-Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Historical media 2007 LLC. Sábado, 28 de Febrero de 2009, 10:12:24
Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
Cheers. Raúl M .
The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
Next day the advance continued from the line Grulich - Mährisch Schönberg - Braunseifen - South of Troppau.
In the pictures below troops belonging to the AA 3 in Troppau.
Sources: Private Sales List-Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Historical media 2007 LLC. Sábado, 28 de Febrero de 2009, 10:12:24
Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- In the background stands a SdKfz.232 (Fu) - Signal light armored vehicle...............
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- Behind the soldiers a line of light vehicles Sd Kfz 221..........................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; last part....................
The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
On October 10, 1938 the sappers of Pi Btl 39 moved toward the bridge over the Oder River located in the small town of Kocatka and there temporarily fixed the new international boundary with concertina wires.
Sources: Private Sales List-Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Historical media 2007 LLC. Sábado, 28 de Febrero de 2009, 10:12:24
Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
It's all folks. Cheers. Raúl M .
The 3 Pz in the Sudetenland - October 1938.
On October 10, 1938 the sappers of Pi Btl 39 moved toward the bridge over the Oder River located in the small town of Kocatka and there temporarily fixed the new international boundary with concertina wires.
Sources: Private Sales List-Aufkl. Abt 3 - -Sudetenland, Poland. Historical media 2007 LLC. Sábado, 28 de Febrero de 2009, 10:12:24
Lebenserinnerungen in Wort und Bild, Band I: Escrito por Günter Sieling.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /PR6-R.htm
It's all folks. Cheers. Raúl M .
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- On the afternoon of October 10, 1938 it was provisionally settled the new frontier in the town of Kocatka on the Oder.
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
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Grl v. Brautschich visiting German troops in Czechoslovakia.
Source: With the VIII AK in Czechoslovakia.
Cheers. Raúl M .
Grl v. Brautschich visiting German troops in Czechoslovakia.
Source: With the VIII AK in Czechoslovakia.
Cheers. Raúl M .
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; something more...................
Hitler in the Czech border!
On October 3, 1938 at 11:15 hours Hitler reached the Bavarian border town of Wildenau, there was met by Konrad Henlein and the Commander of the XVI AK (Mot) General Heinz Guderian .............
Sources: VON DER SdP ZUR NSDAP
http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/?/en ... A022001485
Cheers. Raúl M .
Hitler in the Czech border!
On October 3, 1938 at 11:15 hours Hitler reached the Bavarian border town of Wildenau, there was met by Konrad Henlein and the Commander of the XVI AK (Mot) General Heinz Guderian .............
Sources: VON DER SdP ZUR NSDAP
http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/?/en ... A022001485
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- Hitler received the enthusiastic greeting of the population; the General behind him was Walter von Reichenau.......................
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- The Führer crossing the border to Asch...........................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; a little more on this......................
Armored and Motorized units in Fall Grün!
Zone I along the Lower Bavarian border (Oct 1 - 2): 12th Army without mechanized units.
Zone II along the East Saxon - Lower Silesian border (Oct 2 - 3): 8th Army without mechanized units.
Zone III along the West Saxon - Upper Palatinate border (Oct 3 - 4 - 5): 10th Army with 2., 13., 20. ID (Mot); 1. Le. Div; 1. Pz. Div. (SS LAH?)
Zone IV along the Upper Silesia border (Oct 6 - 7): 2nd Army with 3. Pz. Div. (SS Germania?)
North of Vienna (Oct??): 14th Army with 29. ID (Mot); 4. Le. Div; 2. Pz Div. (SS Deutschland?)
Source: Klaus MICHAELIS "1938 - Krieg gegen die Tschechoslowakei - Der Fall Grün"
Das Kleine Blatt. 02 Oct 1938.
http://www.svornost.com/kalendarium-21- ... fall-grun/
Cheers. Raúl M .
Armored and Motorized units in Fall Grün!
Zone I along the Lower Bavarian border (Oct 1 - 2): 12th Army without mechanized units.
Zone II along the East Saxon - Lower Silesian border (Oct 2 - 3): 8th Army without mechanized units.
Zone III along the West Saxon - Upper Palatinate border (Oct 3 - 4 - 5): 10th Army with 2., 13., 20. ID (Mot); 1. Le. Div; 1. Pz. Div. (SS LAH?)
Zone IV along the Upper Silesia border (Oct 6 - 7): 2nd Army with 3. Pz. Div. (SS Germania?)
North of Vienna (Oct??): 14th Army with 29. ID (Mot); 4. Le. Div; 2. Pz Div. (SS Deutschland?)
Source: Klaus MICHAELIS "1938 - Krieg gegen die Tschechoslowakei - Der Fall Grün"
Das Kleine Blatt. 02 Oct 1938.
http://www.svornost.com/kalendarium-21- ... fall-grun/
Cheers. Raúl M .
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
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The Aufklärungs-Abteilung 5 (2. Pz Div) in the occupation of the Sudetenland!
Source: Album Reichswehr Deutschland Österr. Sudetenland Krad BMW Motorrad Zündapp NSU. eBay Auction.
Cheers. Raul M .
The Aufklärungs-Abteilung 5 (2. Pz Div) in the occupation of the Sudetenland!
Source: Album Reichswehr Deutschland Österr. Sudetenland Krad BMW Motorrad Zündapp NSU. eBay Auction.
Cheers. Raul M .
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- At the border post ...............................
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- In enemy territory. Roadblock at Neubistritz ....................................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.
Re: Heer units in Sudetenland - Oct 1938.
Hello to all ; something more...........................
The Aufklärungs-Abteilung 5 (2. Pz Div) in the occupation of the Sudetenland!
Source: Album Reichswehr Deutschland Österr. Sudetenland Krad BMW Motorrad Zündapp NSU. eBay Auction.
How many czech soldiers were taken into captivity? What happened with them? Cheers. Raul M .
The Aufklärungs-Abteilung 5 (2. Pz Div) in the occupation of the Sudetenland!
Source: Album Reichswehr Deutschland Österr. Sudetenland Krad BMW Motorrad Zündapp NSU. eBay Auction.
How many czech soldiers were taken into captivity? What happened with them? Cheers. Raul M .
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- Unloading ......................
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Serás lo que debas ser o no serás nada. General José de San Martín.