12.SS camo

Vaterland · Post by **Vaterland** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 6:06 am

Was the 12.SS known to wear Italian Camouflage? If so, where can I find photos or documentation showing/stating it. Thanks

Vaterland

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Fri Apr 04, 2003 7:11 am

Yes, both 1.SS and 12.SS used Italian camo materials and, to some extend, Italian vehicles after they saw action in Italy in 1943.

Most if not all photo books about these units have loads of photos showing LAH and HJ personell wearing Italian camo clothing.

Enrico Mölders · Post by **Enrico Mölders** » Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:46 pm

Hello,

here two links with a couple of pictures with members of 12. SS wearing italian camo .

http://www.geocities.com/skribble14/Photos.html

http://www.forces70.freeserve.co.uk/Waf ... 2%20ss.htm

bye Enrico

Paul Hanson · Post by **Paul Hanson** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:26 pm

Timo, HJ was never in Italy??

The reason HJ got so much Italian camo cloth is that a lot of the cadre for forming HJ came from LAH. LAH and HJ shared many traditions, so LAH shared also their stocks of Italian camo material they appropriated in Italy.

PH

Kocjo · Post by **Kocjo** » Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:49 pm

The reason, why had 12. SS-div. Italian uniforms, is very simple. After the Italian capitulation in 1943, Germany occupated Italy. During that also very large numbers of Italian camouflaged uniforms and even German sub-marine uniforms, who were sold to Italy. Sub-marine uniforms went to Panzer-crews, when the camo-smoks went to regular-infantry,...

Regards,
Kocjo

Lustmolch · Post by **Lustmolch** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:11 am

For those interested in figure modelling, Dragon do a set of 12 SS grenadiers, at leat one of which is wearing an Italian cammo overall.

A 1944 picture of HJ tankmen playing guitar and drums is interesting as they look like the prototype Hells Angels (leather outfits, deathsheads on their caps). Coincidence maybe?

Panzerass · Post by **Panzerass** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:31 am

Trumpeter also does one set of figures depicting the 12. SS-Panzerdivision's Boys. They have also the two guys like the DML set in the Italian camo overall and two other ones in walking position.
Here the two kit's boxarts compared.
Trumpeter's set can be found at: http://pmms.webace.com.au/newkitnews/images/tr00401.jpg

And DML's set (found at http://www.italeri.it)

Erich · Post by **Erich** » Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:36 am

It might be of interest to some of you but, Luftwaffe Fallshirmtruppen were also supplied with some Italien camo jackets during their time in Italy in 1944-45.....

~E

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12.SS camo

12.SS camo

HJ with Italian camo