Hello to all ; a little query......................................
The variants of the Sd. Kfz. 251!
I've found this table (see below) where the Sd.Kfz. 251/3 was the towing vehicle for the IG 18 and the Sd.Kfz. 251/4 was the ammo vehicle (later towing vehicle also)......................
http://www.pietvanhees.nl/251/rest/d660 ... ichnis.jpg
And a second table where the Sd Kfz 251/3 was reclassified as Mittlere Funkpanzerwagen (radio medium vehicle).
http://www.pietvanhees.nl/251/rest/d600a.jpg
And also here we found that "The mittlere Funkpanzerwagen (Sd. Kfz. 251/3) - an armoured radio vehicle – appeared first in the D600 of 6th July 1943."
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... 51-03.html
I can not ascertain the accuracy but I guess is pretty good. Any thoughts? Cheers. Raúl M .
The Sd. Kfz. 251!
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The Sd. Kfz. 251!
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- Sd.Kfz. 251/6 mittlere Kommandopanzerwagen during Barbarossa........................
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Re: The Sd. Kfz. 251!
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Sd.Kfz. Mittlere 251/6 Kommandopanzerwagen!
Source: Original, Photo, Pz.Rgt.31, Kommandopanzerwagen Sd.Kfz.251 / 6, Hamar, Norwegen, 1943.
Cheers. Raul M .
Sd.Kfz. Mittlere 251/6 Kommandopanzerwagen!
Source: Original, Photo, Pz.Rgt.31, Kommandopanzerwagen Sd.Kfz.251 / 6, Hamar, Norwegen, 1943.
Cheers. Raul M .
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- A Sd. Kfz. 251/6 Mittlere Kommandopanzerwagen in Norway, 1943............................
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Sd.Kfz. 251/7 mittlerer Pionierpanzerwagen!
Production started on 1941 as group vehicle for the motorized sapper platoons in two variants (Nº 1, 3, 5 or 2, 4, 6 - according to the position within the Platoon). The vehicle was recognized by carrying two sections of one 8 ton bridge.
Source: Original, Photo, XX - SDKFZ 251 BRÜCKENLEGER. ELITE. TARN. PANZER. eBay Auction
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... 51-07.html
Cheers. Raul M .
Sd.Kfz. 251/7 mittlerer Pionierpanzerwagen!
Production started on 1941 as group vehicle for the motorized sapper platoons in two variants (Nº 1, 3, 5 or 2, 4, 6 - according to the position within the Platoon). The vehicle was recognized by carrying two sections of one 8 ton bridge.
Source: Original, Photo, XX - SDKFZ 251 BRÜCKENLEGER. ELITE. TARN. PANZER. eBay Auction
http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... 51-07.html
Cheers. Raul M .
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- In the western border counties of the Reich. Wherever our tanks pass cities and villages on the way to the front, the local population, in particular the youth, greeted them............................
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The medium armored personnel carrier (mittlerer gepanzerter Mannschaftstransportwagen) Sd. Kfz. 25/1.!
This vehicle was built answering a demand from the German army to have a vehicle personnel carrier with some protection and able to transport a rifle squad (schützen-gruppe) so as to maintain the pace of operations within a armored division (panzer).
Due to problems in obtaining armored plates a serie of 305 vehicles without armor were built first (until December 1939) called (mittlere ungepanzerte Mannschaftstransportwagen) whose plates resisted impacts of bullets of small arms and small artillery shrapnel. Then followed the version A (Ausf. A) which appeared in mid-1939 and whose production was allocated to Schützen-Regiment 1 (SR 1) of the 1. Pz Div. To my knowledge only about 232 vehicles of this series were built.
From June to September 1939 the production amounted to:
Armored 11 (June); 32 (July); 25 (August) and 42 (September) - No armored 4 (June); 64 (July); 26 (August) and 55 (September).
Does anyone have any idea if the SR 1 was equipped with armored vehicles only or a mixture of with/without armor? And the other schützen-regiment (SR2 and SR 3)?
Sources: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/n ... anomag.php
http://odkrywca.pl/transportery-w-wehrm ... 29495.html
Cheers. Raul M .
The medium armored personnel carrier (mittlerer gepanzerter Mannschaftstransportwagen) Sd. Kfz. 25/1.!
This vehicle was built answering a demand from the German army to have a vehicle personnel carrier with some protection and able to transport a rifle squad (schützen-gruppe) so as to maintain the pace of operations within a armored division (panzer).
Due to problems in obtaining armored plates a serie of 305 vehicles without armor were built first (until December 1939) called (mittlere ungepanzerte Mannschaftstransportwagen) whose plates resisted impacts of bullets of small arms and small artillery shrapnel. Then followed the version A (Ausf. A) which appeared in mid-1939 and whose production was allocated to Schützen-Regiment 1 (SR 1) of the 1. Pz Div. To my knowledge only about 232 vehicles of this series were built.
From June to September 1939 the production amounted to:
Armored 11 (June); 32 (July); 25 (August) and 42 (September) - No armored 4 (June); 64 (July); 26 (August) and 55 (September).
Does anyone have any idea if the SR 1 was equipped with armored vehicles only or a mixture of with/without armor? And the other schützen-regiment (SR2 and SR 3)?
Sources: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/n ... anomag.php
http://odkrywca.pl/transportery-w-wehrm ... 29495.html
Cheers. Raul M .
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- A column of Sd Kfz 251/1 Ausf. A (apparently) by the hatches in the rear of the vehicle running in Poland 1939 ...........................
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- Posing for the photo in a Sd Kfz 251/1 Ausf. A (it seems).............................................. ......
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The medium armored personnel carrier (mittlerer gepanzerter Mannschaftstransportwagen) Sd. Kfz. 25/1.!
Sources: http://odkrywca.pl/transportery-w-wehrm ... 29495.html
Cheers. Raul M .
The medium armored personnel carrier (mittlerer gepanzerter Mannschaftstransportwagen) Sd. Kfz. 25/1.!
Sources: http://odkrywca.pl/transportery-w-wehrm ... 29495.html
Cheers. Raul M .
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- Front view of a Sd Kfz 251/1 Ausf. A (apparently) used in Poland 1939 ...........................
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- Column of Sd Kfz 251/1 Ausf. A (it seems) during a stop; in the foreground the crew of one of them (10 riflemen - right?).............................................
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Sd Kfz 251 with platform.
A standard design platform was fitted over the driver compartment to an unknown number of Sd. Kfz. 251 Ausf. A (and I believe Ausf. B too). These modified vehicles were assigned to the Platoon leader and also to senior commanders. In some photos it is observed that the front section of this special superstructure was cut in such a way that the machine gun with its armor could be used without limitation ..................
A Sd Kfz 251 with platform at the Aiviekste railway station (Latvia) - 1941 ............................................
Sources: http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... iants.html
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/or ... 5efee3.jpg
The one in the photo is a Sd Kfz 251 Ausf. B (I think). This special variant is confused with the Sd Kfz 251/18 mittlerer Beobachtungspanzerwagen, but AFAIK this version was produced on the Ausf. D from October 1944. Cheers. Raul M .
Sd Kfz 251 with platform.
A standard design platform was fitted over the driver compartment to an unknown number of Sd. Kfz. 251 Ausf. A (and I believe Ausf. B too). These modified vehicles were assigned to the Platoon leader and also to senior commanders. In some photos it is observed that the front section of this special superstructure was cut in such a way that the machine gun with its armor could be used without limitation ..................
A Sd Kfz 251 with platform at the Aiviekste railway station (Latvia) - 1941 ............................................
Sources: http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Homepage_ ... iants.html
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/or ... 5efee3.jpg
The one in the photo is a Sd Kfz 251 Ausf. B (I think). This special variant is confused with the Sd Kfz 251/18 mittlerer Beobachtungspanzerwagen, but AFAIK this version was produced on the Ausf. D from October 1944. Cheers. Raul M .
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Re: The Sd. Kfz. 251!
Hi everyone,
I am building a diorama of a Pak40 with a 251/4 towing halftrack.
However its the old tamiya Hanomag 251/1 kit that i have (although I have read that this is partly based on the ambulance version as it has a water carried in the driving compartment).
Anyway I was wondering if anyone can help with how the 251/4 interior was laid out. Its stated as being an ammo carrier, but was this just wooden boxes of ammo in the back, were some of the internal seats removed and special racks fitted, or was the ammo stored in the fender boxes?
Any help would be fantastic, thanks.
I am building a diorama of a Pak40 with a 251/4 towing halftrack.
However its the old tamiya Hanomag 251/1 kit that i have (although I have read that this is partly based on the ambulance version as it has a water carried in the driving compartment).
Anyway I was wondering if anyone can help with how the 251/4 interior was laid out. Its stated as being an ammo carrier, but was this just wooden boxes of ammo in the back, were some of the internal seats removed and special racks fitted, or was the ammo stored in the fender boxes?
Any help would be fantastic, thanks.
Re: The Sd. Kfz. 251!
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The medium armored personnel carrier (mittlerer gepanzerter Mannschaftstransportwagen) Sd. Kfz. 25/1.!
The versions before the spring of 1943, were also known as "Alte" (about 4,650 units from June 1939 to September 1943) included the Ausf. A, B and C, but the Ausf. D, also known as "Neue" was different since it included modifications to facilitate mass production ....................
Sources: http://www.ebay.com/itm/D1082-No-H-10-1 ... 2550734226
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/n ... anomag.php
Cheers. Raul M .
The medium armored personnel carrier (mittlerer gepanzerter Mannschaftstransportwagen) Sd. Kfz. 25/1.!
The versions before the spring of 1943, were also known as "Alte" (about 4,650 units from June 1939 to September 1943) included the Ausf. A, B and C, but the Ausf. D, also known as "Neue" was different since it included modifications to facilitate mass production ....................
Sources: http://www.ebay.com/itm/D1082-No-H-10-1 ... 2550734226
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/n ... anomag.php
Cheers. Raul M .
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- Column of Sd Kfz 251/1 Ausf. C (it seems) circulating on a street in Kharkov after being reconquest ....................................................
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Re: The Sd. Kfz. 251!
An SdKfz 251/1 with Holzgas (gasogene) in Germany
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France 1944.
Sources: http://www.everytownusa.com/wp-content/ ... rman21.jpg
Cheers. Raul M .
France 1944.
Sources: http://www.everytownusa.com/wp-content/ ... rman21.jpg
Cheers. Raul M .
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- A half track Sd Kfz 251 Ausf. D of the 2. Pz (see emblem on the vehicle's door) captured in a Main Aid Station of the US 90. ID in Chambois ..................................................
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Hello to all ; the description of the source leaves me doubts....................
Mittlere Kommandopanzerwagen or not?
Source: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Panzer-Stu ... Swd1teAMya
Any ideas about the radio equipment on the vehicle? Cheers. Raúl M .
Mittlere Kommandopanzerwagen or not?
Source: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Panzer-Stu ... Swd1teAMya
Any ideas about the radio equipment on the vehicle? Cheers. Raúl M .
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- A question with this Vehicle ¿Sd. Kfz. 251/6 mittlere Kommandopanzerwagen or Sd Kfz 251/3 Mittlerer Funkpanzerwagen................
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Re: The Sd. Kfz. 251!
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SPW in action.
Sources: https://yadi.sk/a/Bb7bjzOh3WLckF
Cheers. Raúl M .
SPW in action.
Sources: https://yadi.sk/a/Bb7bjzOh3WLckF
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- A Sd Kfz 251 Ausf. B during an advance; aiming forward a MG-34 that carries sandbags as additional protection.....................
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- Dismount!! the Rifle squad was deployed jumping out by the top of the troop compartment.....................
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Re: The Sd. Kfz. 251!
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Chassis of the vehicle.
The chassis consisted of a pair of front wheels and a rear section of chains (tracks). The front steer axle was suspended by a large, transverse leaf spring. According to some sources, the front wheels were not equipped with brakes at all. So the track part consisted of seven sheet metal scroll wheels with round relief holes on each side. Each wheel consisted of two discs. The odd-numbered wheels had discs on the axle side by side, while the discs of the second, fourth, and sixth wheels were split. The odd wheels then fit into the space between the two halves of the even wheels. Therefore, the even wheels partially covered the odd wheels when viewed from the side. The last wheel was raised slightly above the level of the others and also served as a tension wheel.
Sources: chasis para SdKfz 251 Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I- 750-0001A-10ª
http://www.panzernet.net/panzernet/stra ... sy/251.php
Cheers. Raúl M .
Chassis of the vehicle.
The chassis consisted of a pair of front wheels and a rear section of chains (tracks). The front steer axle was suspended by a large, transverse leaf spring. According to some sources, the front wheels were not equipped with brakes at all. So the track part consisted of seven sheet metal scroll wheels with round relief holes on each side. Each wheel consisted of two discs. The odd-numbered wheels had discs on the axle side by side, while the discs of the second, fourth, and sixth wheels were split. The odd wheels then fit into the space between the two halves of the even wheels. Therefore, the even wheels partially covered the odd wheels when viewed from the side. The last wheel was raised slightly above the level of the others and also served as a tension wheel.
Sources: chasis para SdKfz 251 Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I- 750-0001A-10ª
http://www.panzernet.net/panzernet/stra ... sy/251.php
Cheers. Raúl M .
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- View of the vehicle's chassis........................................
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Re: The Sd. Kfz. 251!
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Sd.Kfz. Mittlere 251/6 Kommandopanzerwagen!
Source: Original, Photo, Pz.Rgt.31, Kommandopanzerwagen Sd.Kfz.251 / 6, Hamar, Norwegen, 1943.
Cheers. Raul M .
Sd.Kfz. Mittlere 251/6 Kommandopanzerwagen!
Source: Original, Photo, Pz.Rgt.31, Kommandopanzerwagen Sd.Kfz.251 / 6, Hamar, Norwegen, 1943.
Cheers. Raul M .
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- Rear view of a Sd. Kfz. 251/6 mittlere Kommandopanzerwagen with its tailgates open............................
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