Were Luftwaffe pilots/crew primarily German?
Were Luftwaffe pilots/crew primarily German?
I've noticed several countrymen from different nations flew for the RAF. I haven't come across any such information regarding the aircrews of Germany. Was the main force of the German Luftwaffe aircrews primarily German?
No German aircrew
I am no expert on the subject (far from it ! ), however, despite much reading, I have never heard of any Luftwaffe aircrew being non German.
Having said that, many other countries formed a part of the Axis nations, and even the occupied ones provided some formations for the Wehrmacht ( even the British prisoners of war provided enough men to form a largeish unit ), so it is likely that some aircrew were non German.
The reason why so many non Brits participated in British military units, is largely because of our then huge Empire, plus, of course, we offered a refuge for the French, Dutch, Polish etc.etc.etc. who escaped from german occupied Europe and enlisted in British formations. And, of course, that is not to forget your own countrymen, many of whom fought with us before the US entered the war.
Another reason as to why perhaps there may well have been few non German aircrew, is that (a) the Luftwaffe were very pro Nazi- which would have excluded non Germans as possibly being unsuitable, and (b) aircrew tend to be very skilled and highlt trained men. This would have dramatically reduced the numbers of potential candidates !
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Having said that, many other countries formed a part of the Axis nations, and even the occupied ones provided some formations for the Wehrmacht ( even the British prisoners of war provided enough men to form a largeish unit ), so it is likely that some aircrew were non German.
The reason why so many non Brits participated in British military units, is largely because of our then huge Empire, plus, of course, we offered a refuge for the French, Dutch, Polish etc.etc.etc. who escaped from german occupied Europe and enlisted in British formations. And, of course, that is not to forget your own countrymen, many of whom fought with us before the US entered the war.
Another reason as to why perhaps there may well have been few non German aircrew, is that (a) the Luftwaffe were very pro Nazi- which would have excluded non Germans as possibly being unsuitable, and (b) aircrew tend to be very skilled and highlt trained men. This would have dramatically reduced the numbers of potential candidates !
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If I remember correctly there were 5 Spanish Squadrons fighting on the Eastern Front as part of the Luftwaffe over the course of the war. I'm not sure whether the ground crew were Spanish or not.
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You have to bear in mind that Britain had an empire and dominions who provided many of the RAF's top flyers in both WWI and WWII. Even Americans were happy to go and fly for their 'cousins' in the UK. Germany had no such source of manpower, although it would be interesting to know how many people of German origin actually joined the Wehrmacht.
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Hi AJAB,
The photo you are probably referring to is of fhdgy. (Capt) László Pottyondy C/O 102/2 V.Szd with Erich Hartmann. Elements of JG 52 were based at Budaörs along with 102/2 V.Szd
Pottyondy never served with the Luftwaffe spending his whole combat career with the Magyar Királyi Honvéd Légieró (MKHL)
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Andy_F
The photo you are probably referring to is of fhdgy. (Capt) László Pottyondy C/O 102/2 V.Szd with Erich Hartmann. Elements of JG 52 were based at Budaörs along with 102/2 V.Szd
Pottyondy never served with the Luftwaffe spending his whole combat career with the Magyar Királyi Honvéd Légieró (MKHL)
Best Regards
Andy_F
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13.(slow)/JG 52 was the Luftwaffe designation for 13.Letka. Although 13.(slow)/JG 52 was under Luftwaffe operational control it was a SVZ (Slovak Air Force) unit. It's personnel had Slowak uniforms.John Kilmartin wrote:I did a little more digging and found that 13/ JG 52 was manned by Slovaks and 15/ JG 52 was manned by Croats.
15.(kroat)/JG 52 was a Luftwaffe unit, its personnel being part of HZL (Croatian Air Force Legion within the Luftwaffe) along with 10.(kroat)/KG 3 (later re-designated 15.(kroat)/KG 53). Personnel swore allegiance to Hitler and wore Luftwaffe uniforms. Many did later return to the ZNDH (Croatian Air Force).
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Andy_F
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