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by julian
Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:25 am
Forum: General WWII German Military Discussion
Topic: defensive battle
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Views: 3441

defensive battle

Excerpt from manuscript B 789 by Oberst Brandstaedter 'The characteristics of the defensive battle Defensive battle is a feature of position warfare and thus of strategic defense. In general, it is perforce fought with inferior means. Higher combat morale and better training are the best compensatio...
by julian
Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:49 am
Forum: General WWII German Military Discussion
Topic: Offensive Panzer tactics
Replies: 2
Views: 6095

Re: Offensive Panzer tactics

An excerpt from the instructions for the combat of the Panzerbrigade dd 26.07.1944 by Guderian (Panzerbrigade 106 unit history (pp 45-47) "Combat method 1. The strength of the Panzer brigade is its mobility, firepower and armor. Decisive prerequisite for success is the closed , boldly conducted...
by julian
Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:17 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: 3rd Panzer Army and Bagration
Replies: 0
Views: 2704

3rd Panzer Army and Bagration

A quote from Vitebsk, Otto Heidkämpfer Vowinckel Verlag 1954 pp 177-178 "Anyway, the 3rd Panzer Army had to look forward to confronting the enemy pincer attack with the available forces, of which half were fixed unwantedly in the Vitebsk bend. According to the opinion of the Panzer AOK from thi...
by julian
Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:08 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

Thanks, it was only 24 Euro from Amazon.de (not too bad). I'm curious how this book compares to the facts/opinions expressed in: Logistik im Russlandfeldzug. Die Rolle der Eisenbahn bei Planung, Vorbereitung und Durchführung des deutschen... von Klaus A Schüler (Dezember 1987). Schüler was very cle...
by julian
Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:34 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

Der Munitionsverbrauch im Zweiten Weltkieg im operativen und taktischen Rahmen by Gerhard Donat , Biblio 1992is available on amazon and some other sites. Cheap it is not but very interesting.
The foreign military studies 1945-1954 manuscripts can be downloaded image by image on fold3.com.
by julian
Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:44 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

At least I presented data while you simply assembled quotes which suited you. ??? So when you present it it's "data" but whe In present it it's just "quotes which suited" me? We have both presented quotes that support our position. It's pretty clear however that there are a lot ...
by julian
Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:18 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

?? Just because you don't like a truth doesn't mean that it isn't true. If the above is how you support a postion it's clear that that position is seriously challenged. It's also clear at this point that you aren't really interested in discussing this you simply wish to parrot your beliefs. So be i...
by julian
Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:16 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

lwd wrote: But it does. The fact that you don't like doesn't mean that it doesn't it just indicates your inability or lack of desire to confront itmes that don't support your positon.
At least I presented data while you simply assembled quotes which suited you.
by julian
Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:36 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

. The real mistake the Axis made was pursuing Operation Typhoon after early November. They should have accepted that they had done as much damage to the Soviets as they could have and the culmination point of their offensive had been reached. Pulling back to favorable defensive ground, digging in, ...
by julian
Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:11 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

The point was destruction of the Red Army, thus OKH pushing for Moscow as the target, no? My point is that the Kiev operation delivered up one million Red Army Soldiers to the Wehrmacht, something that an early Moscow operation isn't likely to do. Without the help from AGC to AGS there can be no en...
by julian
Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:19 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

] I agree in principle, however in practicality the intent could not be met successfully and at the time the intent was better met by the Kiev operation. Retreat? :? Why?..... You continue to batter away with the same old tired argument that has been demolished by unavoidable facts every time it ap...
by julian
Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:37 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

Regardless of the Kiev or Moscow decision the US/UK-CW will support the Soviets (militarily, economically and politically which has a huge effect on morale) and the US will enter the war, thus the Soviets do not surrender even if Moscow falls in 1941. If the decision is Moscow its unclear if the Ge...
by julian
Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:33 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

From the standpoint of the 18 August Wehrmacht/OKH plan the Germans thought themselves in a good position. In both reality and hindsight that estimate and opinion were both proven absolutely incorrect. The Wehrmacht as it stood in mid-August was not capable of defeating the USSR no matter what hist...
by julian
Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:29 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

Such superlatives are most often wrong. This one is not one of the exceptions. Whether or not Germany would gain would depend on how you define the term as well as things like exchange rations, territory held, how long "prolonged" is etc. Stating your opinions as if they are facts does no...
by julian
Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:26 am
Forum: Campaigns and Battles
Topic: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?
Replies: 291
Views: 101027

Re: Which city should hitler have gone for on the russian front?

Had I looked up a large number of sites there might have been some validity to that suggestion but the quotes I posted were the majority of the ones that I found in a quick search.. Does not matter at all as that does not mean a thing.You posted what suited you. The data do not support what you say.